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[avengertiger]

Hi paddy how's things.
I'm not feeling that at all I like both cars but this just doesn't sit well.
Nicely done though.

[Paddy75]

Hi Dave hope all is well with you. I'm working around manys a mountain on radios so kept busy.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-2-Door-/171447141586?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27eb0bc4d2

Dammit, where are five numbers on a lotto ticket when you need it! A Series 6 MK1 with the torsional strut mounts (or was that a mod'?) you can see it had the round clocks dashboard by the size of the hole on the back panel. Looks good and I guess somebody has had trouble with the heater by the description and the pictures.
Its a 1300 Super by the seats and dashboard as well as the damp-catching insulation on the bulge in the engine bay. From April 1976 the GL was dropped and re-badged as a Super so you got a GL for the price of a Super and going by the date of registration (04/08/1976) assuming that's 4th August and not April 4th then this 2-door should be twin round headlights, hard to see in the pictures. Although maybe the 2-door Super still had single square headlamps, I don't know. The description says it was round headlight so probably it is.

Ziebarted from new, during the long hot summer of '76! This is going to reach ?3k I'd reckon. The last 1300 2-door on Ebay which was a real barn-find with rotten headlights went for 3k (the owner/finder probably got another 500.)

[oldschool]

It looks saveable Paddy...much more valuable than a 4 door of course.
It's a 4 headlight model...you can see the headlight buckets on close inspection.
Also the dash is the 4 round dial one...it has the instrument light dimmer in the end of the headlight switch..that wasn't fitted in the strip speedo models.
Yes it has the later 9/16" struts but the chassis number starts with 'R4....' that means it was built in Ryton in 1974...maybe not sold until 1976?
I see it also has the seat belts on the B pillar...indicating it's a later (1300) 2 door.
No brake booster, so will have the mighty drum brakes too!!

[Paddy75]

I guess it being a 1300 it has the front drums but the 1300GL had discs as standard, the last Supers were GL's with a Super badge so maybe its disc braked. Well, the last time mine went for the test the front brakes registered 80% efficiency which made the tester say, ''..wow..'' I thought the 80% mean't 80% of the ideal - No! That's 80% of the power of the rolling road machine! A new car would struggle to reach 60% apparently. The huge contact area of drums I suppose and from a wee bit of research the 8x1.75'' width front drum is about as big as car front drums went.
The manual adjusting at the rear is a good job, the automatic adjusters never really worked on any car.
After the rolling road brake and suspension test  the tester didn't even lift the lid and just handed me the test certificate.

Good point though, the 2-door is probably disc braked, its at ?2,100 with still 19 bids - somebody is taking a chance on a hefty ?2,500 bid or something. Its an easy fix of course, the dashboard is still likely with the car. Blow three grand on it?! If I was sure of the work situation over the next year maybe. Its for somebody else and a MK1 is too rare to make a bashable hot-rod out of.

As far as I know all MK1's were built in Ryton then the Avenger tracks were moved To Linwood in August 1976 to start MK2 production. Some say the MK2 was not as well built as the MK1 as the Linwood workforce were led by commie shop-stewards who had plans for Chrysler UK to become a manufacturer of agricultural machinery for the third world!
If they knew Chrysler UK would be asset stripped by PSA maybe they would have had a different attitude but anyhow.

Spoke to a guy with a Lotus Sunbeam recently who has, as it happens, a 1975 2-door 1600 GL Avenger rally prepped (I have a round headlight grille for him) and he said the MK2's were rotten compared to the MK1, anyhow in the 70's a new car of whatever make had to be rustproofed from new, some dealers or owners did so, while most did not.
Ryton from September '76 on became the assembly plant for the re-badged French Chryslers (Alpines, Solaras, Horizons and the P104 with a Simca engine, the Talbot Samba.) It is said the Ryton workforce then hated the cars they were making which did not do the build quality any good so by the 80's Talbot = Tinny, tappity rusty shite. ''..A short lives tinny tappity affair ending in a visit to the crushers..''
In Ireland the old Rootes Santry assembly plant still made Avengers and Hunters with the same flakey build quality just at a slower pace so some people say the Irish ones were less rusty, but...

Oh and finally folks! Your MK2 1300 in the very same colour won the most sexy Avenger award at the ASOC National Weekend 2014 awards. That colour really suits a MK2 indeed.

[Paddy75]

Well the 2-door sold for ?3,800 so this has flushed out a couple of others.

Another MK1 1300 2-door needing welding and a DL so strip dashboard and see where someone has added door pockets!
A series 6 and with drum brakes. Also for some reason the series 5 & 6 has the washer bottle on the n/s rather than hung from the battery. They went back to the battery bag.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1976-HILLMAN-AVENGER-1300-DELUXE-RED-2-DOOR-NO-SUNROOF-IDEAL-HISTORIC-MOTORSPORT-/321526097422?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4adc72e60e

Looks like a GT and probably is.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-GT-1500-4-door-1972-project-/161424188490?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2595a1a44a

Fair amount of work done to it new front panels a good project for someone.

A series 7 in cop-car blue this still has the MK1 TCA's and points badged as 1300 Super so while the registration date is a bit late for 1976/77 build it is a series 7. Maybe the O'Sweeney decided to drop the 1300's and it got stuck in a distributors yard for six months, anyhow tidy enough looking bar a wheel arch.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chrysler-Avenger-1295-Super-/111464331475?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19f3cab8d3

[gt]

always the way with ebay one comes along then 2 appear outta nowehere!
like the look of the yellow gt paddy,he,s a asoc member and I believe its a original car, what kind of money will it make?
its still needs a fair amount of work but all easy repairs from the looks of things.....eamon

[Paddy75]

Hard to say what that 4-door GT is worth, ?1500? I guess you have all the panels if necessary Eamon.
I suppose a single 175CD in place of the twins does the same job with less hassles. It looks like a solid Avenger, sure the jack boxes are probably rotten but they don't tend to spread rot to the sill or legs. The front o/s leg below the brake master cylinder looks okay and that's where the rot usually starts to get serious as far as I have seen with them.
Depends on how bad the rear arches, or rather the inner rear frame is, looks advanced by the pictures.
Hard to say and being a GT there will be a good few willing to take a chance on it.

Here is a 1500GL that looks like a great buy for someone with a lot of spares.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk2-Hillman-Avenger-Not-Tiger-Barn-Find-Spares-or-Repairs-/331322384976?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4d245a6250

Is missing the throttle link and other bits and pieces, has the SU carbie, why?

MK2? Seems that a lot of people call a Hillman with the round headlights a MK2 Avenger, probably because of the Tiger2.

At ?6-800 this would be a good buy. Got a Series 8 or Sunbeam front cradle Eamon? That GL could make a good back road basher with a 1600 GLS engine in it. Hey its not 1990 anymore! They cost!

[Bricstar]

Hey guys, Recently my Hillman Avenger Alpine 1973 failed its WOF and has been off the road for a couple of weeks now. The only part i need is a LEFT FRONT SHOCK as its leaking.
please let me know if you can help
i appreciate it

[oldschool]

Here's that 1980 1.3 LS up for sale again...in Torquay. It's the low spec version of my 1.3 GL! The later 1300's cruise well on the motorway with their 3.89 diff.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1980-TALBOT-AVENGER-1-3-LS-IN-BLUE-35-000-MILES-/291257805851?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43d0516c1b

[Paddy75]

Yeh nice 1300 in Torquay and its been forsale a good while now.

Here is a Series 6 GLS. The 175CD in place of the twins was a Series 6 thing as is the strut mounts. Looks like a new carbie and manifold, the way the insulation on the bulge is in place would suggest its 39k miles is genuine.

Not bad, not bad at all.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-1600-GLS-Auto-/161416038453?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2595254835

[oldschool]

It's Tiger Time again...here's a Mk2 for 20,000 pounds...am sure we've seen it for sale before quite a bit cheaper??

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C560707

[Paddy75]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HILLMAN-AVENGER-BLUE-Rally-project-/261974423544?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Well nice try, '1970.' I guess the tag is 1970 and the rest of it is at least 1974. Someone has sawed through the DL (no bin) door trims to fit the bins! 8 fuse electrics on a 1970 Avenger, perfortated headlining, no badge holes in the boot for the '1500 Super' or whatever badge, the Simca window handles and so-on.
The 1970 Avenger of the future! I reckon its a Series 5 by the washer bottle on the bulkhead. Good enough for ?5-800. You'd want the actual tag for it though and 1975 & 6 cars are about to become tax exempt anyway. You can even see where someone has removed the later type tags from the slam panel!

[JoKer]

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