Avengers for sale around the world...

[Paddy75]

Seller is after ?400 and its going to bid higher than that.

On we go.

http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/vintagecars-for-sale/1973-hillman-avenger/6857034

Pricey for a car needing a set of sills. Note the early Hunter 'Hillman' badge!

Coming soon. Have had this cwp a couple of years now, unused just needing a clean.



The SU (with the correct needle and spring) has made the engine pretty torquey and during the long run it had on Sunday I noticed the transmission noise is getting louder. Also the car shunted a couple of times suggesting a diff is on its last legs.

Slowed down a bit taking this! You would not fall asleep!



When the speed is up to this its a bag full of revs and noise. Gave me about 34mpg overall I reckon and there is a new temperature sender in the head which has made the gauge swing more along its scale.

[oldschool]

The temp reading high might be the wrong sender unit Paddy? Hillman's use a black one and Chrysler's a white one.

[Paddy75]

Its a red one, was listed for Avenger '70-76 and I notice on Davids 1600 with the older Delco clocks fitted the temp needle swings a bit high too. With the old sender the thermostat opened at the dot between C and N.
Thermostat open where the picture shows the needle and if you push the 1300 mill on to about 70mph the needle goes to the dot between N and H then the heater runs cold so I guess that means the thermostat is fully open.

Anyhow, the owner of this Tiger replica must have had a lot of interest, if they are worth as much as he is looking for it now you might as well buy the 1500GLS.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-Tiger-rep-Rally-Car-Race-not-Escort-may-p-x-more-pics-added-/111347952478?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19ecdaeb5e

Kermit is still about.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C483546

Too much money.

[oldschool]

Something's wrong if your thermostat doesn't fully open until 70mph Paddy!!
More likely the massive fan rpm and airflow through the radiator is making it more efficient.
Something I've recently learned is that manual NZ Avengers only have a 2 row radiator while autos have a 3 row...same in the UK?!
Always wondered why my manual (with an electric fan) gets hot quickly in traffic.
A 3 row would be the way to go when it needs replacing.

[Paddy75]

There is a difference in the radiator for a 1250 and the 1500 I read somewhere in a OWM I have. As for the 1300/1600 I don't know. The thermostat not fully opening until the engine is really getting fuel pumped through it, is that not how they mean't to work? Only when the engine gets to a high temperature the thermo expands the full way and cuts off the feed to the heater.
What it may be is the thickness of the waterpump gasket. Pitmans OWM goes on about it being important the proper Chrysler gasket is used otherwise the pump rotor is too close to the housing or something.

Here is the radiator I got from the 1250 field find, there is a difference in the density of the fins compared to the one on mine.

A 1250 rad.



Then the radiator on mine.


Wonder is the gasket too thin?

Both have two rows.
Or is it that the thermostat on mine has a jiggle pin? I have an Avenger thermostat without a pin and its hole - was cheap I was a right madman with Ebay Avenger parts. If it was cheap with no bids and for an Avenger it got bought. Recently I got an ignition switch ?3 (although recently postage has gotten pricey so maybe I was right buying a couple of years ago.) Seller thought it was broken probably. WD40 and oil cured that!

Anyhow! ''..only two left..'' No, only two registered as 'Avenger GLS' usually a car was not registered with its trim level and then as half of them would have been registered as Talbots also.

I see where rain water has been left to cause destruction!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1978-CHRYSLER-HILLMAN-AVENGER-1600-GLS-AUTO-GENUINE-54-000-MILES-FROM-NEW-/141295574716?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20e5df5ebc

Extremely rare my heel, in the 1980's there were two MK2 GLS's different neighbours of mine had, both red, both 1979 people called them the twins. One had Chrysler on the lid and the other Talbot - how I wish I bought one of them! The Chrysler one (LIJ 5668 or something like that) was literally only used to go to Church on a Sunday! Mind you the man that had it also worked on cars of the evening and had a few Avenger bits left, including an unused oil pump.

I tried to find it but it was sold to a Bricklayer, got tortured to death.

[Paddy75]

A well restored '79. By the cables on the Battery +ve its a Series 9 as far as I know so it would have that oil level and pressure brain in the drivers door footwell pillar. GB 'T' registration (1978/9) means its a Chrysler and it looks like a 1.6LS with stainless door bits added. Has also 1/4 of the front trim added.

The sill looks new on it and I see the roof gutter trim is the same replacement I put on mine, looks a bit thick with no foot formed on the ends. Maybe its my imagination but the line around the quarter rear panel bottom looks a bit soft.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Car-Chrysler-Avenger-/261489053052?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3ce1f64d7c

A bit pricey, but its not five years ago anymore.

[oldschool]

I see a heated rear screen on eBay...pretty rare to find a working one these days and a great upgrade for older Hillmans!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-Rear-Windscreen-heated-/251545373105?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a9145c9b1

[oldschool]

I see that restored blue '79 has been re-listed Paddy...in the 'carpets and floor mats' category again...it might take a while to sell...lol

[oldschool]

Here's a mint Sunbeam Avenger GLS for sale in Greece...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUNBEAM-1976-in-excellent-condition-/181439796634?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a3ea7959a

[JoKer]

Parts from UK

Kinda keen if anyone wants to get a few posted over



Matthew Ollman‎Rootes Group
23 mins ?

In the Archive we have a bunch of duplicate Owners Instructions and Owners Handbooks. All never been used just stored for 40 odd years.
Anyone interested in any of those pictured get in touch. matthewollman@rootesarchivecentre.org.uk

[JoKer]

not sure if this has been here yet or not

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1979-TALBOT-AVENGER-1-6-RED-FULL-MOT-TAX-TO-NOV-2014-READY-TO-USE-BARGAIN-/161365597227?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2592239c2b



when someone describes a car as "mint" this is what I expect!

[oldschool]

Sold yesterday for 1295 pounds...cheap cheap.

[Paddy75]

I seen this one a couple of weeks ago, while on my way to free up the rear wheel cylinders on another MK1 funnily enough. Stopped and had a chat with the owner and its in pretty good shape. Apart from a rotten bonnet its a sound enough body. Its September 1975 which is emissions exempt (just, anything registered after October 1st '75 os CO and NOx tested.)
The brakes need freed up and that's about it, a 1300 with the SU carburettor. Looks like it was re-sprayed with a metallic mix at some time and as the sills, valences and legs are fine I guess its innards got a squirt of Waxoil.

Dashboard is of course cracked and it has the Veglia clocks.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/hillman-avenger-1300-dl-/331283624347?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4d220af19b

As for the orange May 1975 1600 I've been doing a bit with I just don't know how to tell its owner that the liners have washed out of it - Weber downdraught was on it too long. Here comes a piston ring change job.

[lookas]

http://www.njuskalo.hr/auti/chrysler-avenger-oglas-2755052

[Paddy75]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Talbot-Chyrsler-Sunbeam-Rally-car-1978-and-spares-package-/221525319574?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3393f01f96

Good Sunbeam for robbing a bank, was it a Sunbeam or an Avenger?!