Avengers for sale around the world...

[Paddy75]

One of the things people used to say about cars in the 1970's, the one with the bigger engine was easier on fuel - because they are geared higher, what a relevation! If I keep the Hillman 1300 at 40-45mph it runs very easy on the fuel but over this and you can notice the needle dropping.

The 4.4:1 diff on the 1250/S4 1300cc, even by cross-ply standards was just too low. The consumption figures of the 1250 tested at launch in sunny Malta was 23mpg overall! Then by the time of the 2-door launch (March'73) it was 30mpg upwards on a 1500cc 2-door. The MK2 was apparently giving 33-35mpg in 1600cc form.
As you say the MK2 required a gear drop to climb a hill, I assume the 3.5 diff there.

The 3.7 diff would seem to be at the sweet spot for a 1600 and at least theoretically a 1500 with a 3.7 diff when the car usually has only one or two sitting in it could be the most economical Avenger possible without putting a modern engine into it or a 5 speed box. For sure another gear is a great help on cars of this era. 1950/60's cars by their suspension, build and shape just could not do higher speeds while the coke-bottle cars had the ability to sit at 80mph but without the 5th gear its a noisy thirsty experience.

I guess 3.9:1 would be about right for a 1300 and yes its is hilly around here with mad cambered 'roads' which are great roads for an Avenger and I can see why, ''..they were the one to have..''

What would the MK2 8.8:1 pistons do to a Hillman 1300 with the wilder cam? Or how would a 1500 run with the 1300/1600 twin downpipe manifolds? For sure you start to think.

The NZ fuzz would book you for 10km/h over the limit on a motorway? Here the limit is 120km/h on the new southern motorways but you'd need to be over 85mph to annoy them. Generally its 80mph as long as you are belted and not apparently drunk. I drove on the German autobhans a few times and boy do you check that mirror three times before overtaking!

Accessories, here is another brochure in ebayland.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-Accessories-1974-75-UK-Market-Sales-Brochure-/171251524666?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item27df62e43a

Look at the fog lights on the MK1 GLS! They'd fairly catch the stones!
Rubber floor mats eh? Try sprayed rubber exactly below where those mats were placed and seal the damp and battery acid out of the front floorpan seams. I should be getting the drivers side jack-box replaced today or tomorrow - I-phone by my side, yer gonna get tortured!

[avenga]

Another interesting aside is my insurance company refusing to insure my Alpine as the 5 speed gearbox wasn't a factory option and fitting the Ford one is a 'modification' not allowed under my policy!
Comprehensive insurance costs me a whole $81 per year, so I wasn't having any of that!

I am with Swann insurance and they fine with insuring my massively modified Panther for $25k so they should insure your 5 speed Alpine no probs. Costs $220 per year but it would be much cheaper for yours.

[Paddy75]

A 2-door 1250 Super (likely drum braked) and a '79 1.6 LS.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-avenger-1250-super-barn-find-repair-rally-track-project-/251474927836?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a8d12e0dc

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Talbot-Avenger-1-6-LS-Exellent-Condition-1979-/191099911987?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c7e713f33

Stainless exhaust looks good.

[Avenger414]

Hi i am maltese and i live in Malta and i want to buy an avenger 2 door.can some one here help me please where can i find one,if its in uk better and easier for me , even if the car needs work on it.

[avenga]

Hi and welcome to the forum.

There is a 2 door for sale on the forum but it is in New Zealand so it wouldn't be worth it.

There one for sale here http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C467570

You would probably have to keep an eye on ebay UK. They pop up every now and then.

[Avenger414]

Hi thanks,i saw this one you gave me,but its too modified i wish to make it a bit more like original

[Avenger414]

Hi i bought 1 today from Malta

[avenga]

Awesome! Post some pictures if you can.

[Avenger414]

ok i will but for now i dont have any because i have to go and tow it this week, but before i tow it i have to take some pictures because it is full of dirt,because the owner was an old man it had been garaged for about 10 years said his family

[oldschool]

Here's a nice 1600 wagon for sale in Birmingham...just needs a wash and air in the tyres!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-1600-Super-N-Reg-Spares-Repairs-Non-Runner-inc-Haynes-Manual-/351029357276?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item51bafaeadc

[Avenger414]

 this my new new 1970 Hillman Avenger i just bought

[Avenger414]

here are some other pictures

[Paddy75]

A 1300 2-door, looks pretty solid and is a Series 6 alright by those strutmounts.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PROPER-BARN-FIND-HILLMAN-AVENGER-2DOOR-NO-SUNROOF-1300-DELUXE-ORIGINAL-CAR-/321361301586?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4ad2a05052

Doesn't your heart kinda stop when you see the 'sunroof' word then realize no sunroof!

Its a 1300 MK1 and not a GL or an estate wagon = Drum Brakes (they are not that bad, just whenever dirt gets onto the n/s drum, or water, or they go slightly out of adjustment, or they take a notion on you - no no they are fine, you never quite know what is going to happen about every time you go for the brakes. Either massive overbraking on the n/s thanks to dirt or solid even braking with a nice light pedal load then the next time after that the brakes feel dull.)
In 1973 when the 2-door was launched they started to give the 1250 (then 1300) front drums. For ?7 when ordering your new Avenger at the time, seven freakin' quid got you front discs.

Good Avenger 414 BTW.

[oldschool]

How about this Tiger replica on eBay...1600 Sunbeam Ti motor, Sierra 5 speed box, 4.4 LSD....NICE!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-Tiger-recreation-historic-Rally-car-Race-not-Escort-may-p-x-/111315544572?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19eaec69fc

[oldschool]

And a repainted 1500 Super with 205/50-15 tyres...beats me how they fit under standard guards??

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/hillman-avenger-1972-1500-super-/271441897380?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f3332a7a4