Avengers for sale around the world...

[oldschool]

There is always a Tiger around! This one looks like its seen a good few races in its time.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HILLMAN-AVENGER-TIGER-/321230346594?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4acad21962#ht_222wt_1328

Whats with the colour of the grille? They were either black or matte black (GLS) I believe.

Sold for 4.5k pretty cheap for a genuine Tiger?!

[JoKer]

Hunter

A very rare Hunter in the UK that could do with saving.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1969-hillman-hunter-auto-royal-project-/221301392766?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item338697457e

[oldschool]

Here's a tidy Avenger 1500 on eBay with Capri mags and the dreaded sunroof!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HILLMAN-AVENGER-1500-SUPER-BROWN-/181255121218?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a33a5a942

[JoKer]

http://www.rally.ie/classifieds/131113-213543

The car was loaned to a young Colin McRae to enter his first rally in which he finished 13th overall.

[oldschool]

It's Tiger Time in the UK again....they aren't getting any cheaper...still better value than a rally Avenger...lol

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1972-HILLMAN-AVENGER-TIGER-II-CONCOURSE-CONDITION-/231102304289?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35cec55021

[oldschool]

Here's a nice wagon going cheap in Kent...looks like it's had a repaint at some stage.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1972-HILLMAN-AVENGER-1500-SUPER-BLUE-/331070212195?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4d15528863

[oldschool]

How about this cheap Avenger Wagon on eBay.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HILLMAN-AVENGER-ESTATE-1974-1600-DELUXE-RED-/291045572801?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43c3ab00c1

[Paddy75]

Yeh looks like a good project for someone although when I see that black spray high on the body it usually means rust and lots of it, sure I could be wrong about that.

Imperial Red Avengers seem to be in at the moment, a MK1 2-door shell was on ebay and it looked solid.

And into Talbotization Imperial red became 'Rouge Amarate' here is a decent 1600GL and needing a bit of bodywork will make someone a good buy.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TALBOT-AVENGER-1600-GL-RED-1979-/111246707348?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19e6d20a94

When I went to get the paint mixed for my yoke last July the guys computer came up with 'Talbot 1973-77' 'Rouge Amarate' as listed for Chrysler paint code 165, says I to him, ''..dare you write Rouge Amarate on that tin!..'' 'Chrys 165' it was.

[oldschool]

Here's another Tiger for sale on eBay...in the Movie Props section...lol

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-Tiger-MK11-1973-very-rare-car-one-of-the-last-ever-made-/151197779316?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item2334170574

[Paddy75]

The Tiger2 is still looking for a buyer.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1972-HILLMAN-AVENGER-TIGER-II-CONCOURSE-CONDITION-/231140859232?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35d1119d60

The Sunseeker is up for auction.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C465181

Now with overiders!

And a Sunbeam Lotus, although this looks built from a standard Sunbeam. Series1 front. Thought the Lotus S1 'beams were all black and silver then the S2 in moonstone or was that just the Avon's. 180 hoss, that's a lot!

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C398921

[Paddy75]

Around and round they go..

Good job this, would seriously need a back axle! 3,000rpm at 40mph a 1250cc had 4.4:1.
Looks like a Super by the seats and someone has put a 1500GL dashboard into it with Delco clocks. Tidy Avenger, maybe heavy on the filler around the rear wheel arch front by the picture. I see the throttle linkage looks new, somebody did a dedicated job to this Avenger.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tax-exempt-hillman-avenger-/191079200314?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c7d35363a

A 4-door GT, with an intake manifold from a MK2.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/hillman-avenger-gt-/111285630799?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19e923f74f

Rust is getting nasty for ?2,200! The carbie problem could be remedied by..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HILLMAN-AVENGER-TWIN-STROMBURG-CARBS-CD150S-/360867258607?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item54055d60ef

Hooray, the CDS fixed needle type!

Then the best MK1 you could ever find that is registred. The Sunseeker is still doing the rounds and the 2,500 miles and from new rustproofing is apparently genuine.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-DL-Automatic-Timewarp-find-2500-miles-from-new-/161230401572?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item258a14b024

The clocks in this one are the Veglia type, no regulator double coiled gauges, very sturdy. For sale here and no, I am not the bidder.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-Speedometer-/251453180001?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a8bc70861

[oldschool]

I see that Sunseeker has been relisted for 4950 or offer Paddy.
Looks mint and they might get their price...if you don't mind the no frills DL spec...an auto without boosted brakes has to be a bit scary!
It looks like someone has painted under the bonnet matt black...should be the body colour and it also has the old style grill badge and no 'auto' badge on the boot lid!
I see it has indicator repeaters on the front guards too, weren't they just for USA models?

[avengertiger]

They were available in the options catalogue along with the fender mirrors,I had an options catalogue once must see can I dig it out.

[Paddy75]

Yeh the repeaters were an option I believe. You can still see the flasher units listed as 6FL or 8FL depending on how many watts were going through them, or in other words if you had repeaters or not. I don't remember Avengers with them and the protruding shape of the front lens' means you get sideways indication of well, indication!

Looks like the Sunseeker was a limited edition which had all the extras fitted and the red square grille badge was on them too by the looks of this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-Sunseeker-Limited-Edition-1974-UK-Market-Sales-Brochure-/170897290519?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item27ca45b517

Oh how bad is it when you notice things like that! Hard to say if the car is worth ?5,000 or not, I suppose so and no matter how well 'proofed a 1970's car is there will still be something to repair or clean up. ?5k? If you like automatics and its too original to convert to manual I guess. A 3.54:1 axle to the BW 4 speed self-shifter is what I'd likely do to it seeing as I've convinced myself MK1's were way too low geared!

From the accessories page of the '74 Avengers brochure.



Good point about the brakes BTW, with autos you are on the brakes more than a manual. Mean and nasty Dom asbesdos brake pads would be needed!

See the way they mention, ''..ideal transmission for caravan and trailer towing..'' The Avenger was low geared compared to about everything else. MK1 Escort 1300's were 3.9:1 as were Marinas and Vivas. 4.4:1 on a light bodied car! No wonder the Avenger got a drinker reputation! They basically threw away all the effort made in optimizing the body weight by gearing them for towing
Must have been all those photos of an Avenger laden with a family towing a boat that made Chrysler gear them like a van (Escort van was 4.1:1 BTW.)

I see the 1976 MK1 1600 got 3.7:1 and Autocar reported a marked improvement in top speed and consumption.
MK2 Avengers had a better consumption rep' because the 1300 got 3.9:1, standard performance 1600 went to 3.54:1 with 3.7:1 on the high performance models. Yes there were also differences in the camshafts and crt, but its really this simple.
When a car seems to have really good engine braking, well guess what, 50-60mph means its just throwing the fuel through them!

Okok I'll get off me hobby-horse and keep looking for a 3.7 axle! Sheesh! If my 1300 was a few months older it would have been at 4.4:1! The 4.1:1 is bad enough running 3,000rpm at 45mph.

Me big theory is that a 1500 with a 3.7 diff would make the easiest run Avenger, the 1500 had a good consumption reputation, oh and just one more thing ma'am.

Autocar also reported that the '76 1600 Super (3.7:1) was recording the speed exactly accurate while a 1974 1600GL (3.9:1) was showing the speed about 2mph fast. The speedo cog for 3.9, 3.7 and 3.5:1 is the same. I assume the speedo head on a standard MK2 1600 compensated for the 3.5 diff.

So if you put a 3.7 axle into a 1500 or 1600 MK1 there should be no speed error problems.
Finally, the diff ratio for a MK2 Escort 1600 was? 3.77:1 and the crossflow was not a torquey engine.
Somebody really dropped the ball when gearing the Avenger! That mistake sold more Marinas!

Towing is it? The Hunter was the absolute business for pulling a cattle trailer and well proven for it by the amount of them I used to see doing just that! Farmer with a brown Hunter heading for the cattle mart and sometimes with a CB antenna on the roof!

Wow that was a Monday morning rant!

From a Series 6 handbook.

The earlier handbook shows 3.9:1 in the 1600 and 1500.

The Series 6 also had the torsional strut mounts so its likely the NZ built late MK1's had the 3.7 if you guys see a MK1 with the torsional mounts it could be worth the while checking the diff ratio.

The Service code would be T7xx (or T8xx if automatic) something else to think about in the scrapyard or a scrapper in the ditch.

[oldschool]

Yes we can rave on for hours about Avenger diff ratios and fuel economy Paddy!!
Owning both the Chrysler and Hillman 1600 manuals, I've found the Hillman to be more economical up to 80 km/h while the Chrysler is better at 100 km/h providing the roads are reasonably flat.
With its 'pussy' camshaft and higher diff, the Chrysler needs to change down on hills sooner than the Hillman, affecting its fuel economy.
A 3.89 in your 1300 would be ideal I reckon. A 3.7 might be too high as it's a bit hilly around your way!

Putting the Sierra 5 speed in my twin carb 3.89 Hillman Alpine I get the best of both worlds!
The only downside is the 'agricultural' Ford gear change...the hillman box is much smoother...noticed by road testers back in the day!
I shouldn't be too hard on Ford...after all their gearbox expertise came from Fordson tractors...haha

Another interesting aside is my insurance company refusing to insure my Alpine as the 5 speed gearbox wasn't a factory option and fitting the Ford one is a 'modification' not allowed under my policy!
Comprehensive insurance costs me a whole $81 per year, so I wasn't having any of that!
I pointed out that Avengers in Argentina had factory 5 speeds, however they weren't available on NZ models and importing one from Argentina wasn't practical, so they relented!!

Another advantage of the Sierra box is the speedo reads fast...I was cruising along the motorway at 110km/h (limit is 100 km/h) when a cop crept up behind me...I thought oh..oh...but he overtook me and kept going...LMAO!!