Avengers for sale around the world...

[Paddy75]

Thankfully it has a 4.11 and not a 1250cc or 1300cc Estate 4.37. Oh the noise! My back axle needs attention! At 60mph+ it sounds like a propeller plane coming in to land, doors to manual! I was occassionally slipping into neutral and letting it coast and idle as I checked that the oil pressure was still healthy.
There is a 3.7 diff from an automatic Sunbeam going cheap but the postage!

I see this forsale, now look at the description and the badging '1300 DL' err on a 1979? Someone stuck a 73-76 badge from a Hillman on it. Which kinds makes me think that junior has lost the registration documents!

As far as I know the first MK2's were still badged as DL, Super and GL and these models still had the rod linkage throttle and points ignition. Then as the throttle went to cable and electronic ignition, also I guess about the time the Sunbeam was launched the badging went to '1.3 LS' GL and GLS for the engines with the bigger inlet manifold and 175CD3 carbie (four mounting studs - or was that just the '75 '76 single carbie Hillman GT's?)
Anyhow this looks more rotten than he is claiming I'd say. Door cads with no pockets!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/chrysler-avenger-/150767306964?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item231a6e88d4

also this one,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-1500-1972-tax-exempt-/170790863552?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27c3edc2c0

Nice, but it cost

[oldschool]

Yes you certainly got the cheapy models in the UK...no door pockets, driver sunvisor only and rubber mats....lol
I think only the very late 76-77 Hillman 1600 GLS (Alpine) got the single 175CD carby, as they ditched the twin carb setup because of cost and tuning issues.
Then they went back to a single 150CD for all the Chrysler models, to save money no doubt!
I've e-mailed you an excel spreadsheet for calculating rpm using various diff ratios, wheels and tyres - very handy info!
Also a photo of Logan's car with 14" Sierra rims on the back.
His is a 1600 auto, so with the 5-10% slip, revs like a 1300 on the motorway...haha
The big rims have made a BIG difference (easier than changing the diff) and gives it that cool Starsky and Hutch look..!!

[Paddy75]

Just for you Oldschool! If the young fella is misbehaving he gets to look at this for a month!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Talbot-Sunbeam-instrument-cluster-/140711383391?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item20c30d515f

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-talbot-avenger-rear-boot-lid-badge-1-6-LS-/130654599248?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e6b9ef850

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chrysler-Avenger-LS-Special-Edition-Brochure-/260965873122?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item3cc2c735e2

Ohh 'Special Edition' yeh, the inventory manager made a balls-up and ordered too many GLS wheel trims AND two!!! yes, two! Wing mirrors! A clock! So thats a GL model minus the expensive bits then. Musta been Chryslers swan song as Chrysler Europe was dumped on PSA for

[kierbear]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Valiant-VG-VH-H4-Halogen-Headlight-Conversion-Kit-/350500810476?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item519b79eeec#shId

these will work yes??

[avenga]

Yup, I run them in my VH Charger, and VG,VH and Hillman Avenger all share the same lights.

They are very bright. If you upgrade your wiring then you can also run 90/100 Watt bulbs like I do in my Charger. It is a good upgrade and I would have done the same with my Avenger if I didn't do the quad headlight conversion.

[kierbear]

yea. my one minter headlight cracked so im a little annoyed so time for an upgrade! there is a set on trademe fofr $280!!!!! what theeee. is upgrading wiring compulsory? it sounds like alot of effort

[avenga]

If you run the weaker 55/60watt lights that come with those lights then the current wiring should handle the current.

[kierbear]

o ok. im not in any hurry to buy them since im a broke student so will cross that bridge when i get to it lol

[Paddy75]

http://www.octane.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=16708

Buckley motors made Rootes/Chrysler cars in Ireland from CKD. Incredibly little information though! I like this, ''..





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I learned to "drive" in their car park. In a lovely brand new Avenger. I could barely see over the steering wheel, it was nice of them to leave the keys on the rear wheel so I could practice. ..''

[Paddy75]

I see the light blue MK2 is back forsale. Seen this before about a year ago. Looks very tidy. No door pockets though!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1980-Talbot-Avenger-1-3-LS-/120885964401?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c255d6e71

[oldschool]

Yeah that's the one I saw on e-Bay before with the funny wheel trims Paddy...I think he paid about 3,000 pounds for it??
Will be interesting to see if it's held it's value...While it's looks in very nice condition, it's not a collectable model.

[Paddy75]

Sexy!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1975-HILLMAN-AVENGER-1600GT-/230771261068?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35bb09fe8c

Not a bad bit of home brew there. A tuned up Fiat TC in it, now that'd be one quick Tiger (sorta) replica there. Makes you wonder why they never made a 2-Door Tiger.

[oldschool]

Yeah, that's one cool car, wonder where the rear spoiler came from??!!
No door pockets though...hard to find the perfect car...haha
A 2 door Tiger...now that's a thought...maybe Peugeot can make a retro one...they own the rights to the 'Hillman' name...LOL

Remembering back to the early - mid '70's...it was the first oil shock and we were all pissed off with the rapid rise in petrol prices...hit $1 a gallon in 1975...crikey!!
So it was the beginning of the end for any car that drank fuel....like Aussie and Yank muscle cars...and Hillmans with twin weber carbs!!
Adding to Hillman woes, was the poor build quality and patchy supply from constant strikes and the lack of a 5 speed/low diff ratio to make them more economical on the motorway.

Of course we all laugh at 1970's fuel prices now..!!

[blekkja]

Given that we have 'retro' VW Beetles, BMW Mediums as well as whatever the yanks are up to I am personally surprised that nobody has made a new Morris Minor. Don't the chinese own Austin these days? Surely somebody there should have put 2 and 2 together and cashed in on that.


As for the Avenger there is a good case for the Toyota Altezza being it. It is RWD and pretty much the same size and proportions. And is a really nice looking car - a future classic for sure. Cost is a bit prohibitive for me at the moment, but I plan to invest in a tidy one and hold on to it. (A 2 litre manual, without the spoiler and excessive bodykit)

[avenga]

They make the Dodge Avenger. Just stick a Hillman badge on it and there you go