JoKer's '76 HN6783 Discussion

[avenga]

I had a look at the 75. The wiring is there but it is taped up. You can see it here in this photo. There is no bulb and that tape that you see off to the left is where the plug is, they sort of looped it around and then taped it up.



From delooming my wagon, this was how they did it. They left all the wiring in the loom and used one loom for all of the cars, regardless if it had the feature or not, so there are a ton of wires that connect up to nothing. For example it had wiring for headlight wipers and washers where never came out on NZ cars, but they still have the plug for them.

I took a some photos from a 1975 Todds brochure I have, here is the Super specs. You will see under electrical it says nothing about reversing lights.



And then for the Alpine and GLS, it says, "As Avenger Super, but in addition:" and then under electrical you will see the reversing light.



Also, back to before when I said the rev counter was optional back then. It looks like it was only on the GLS in 1975, the Alpine mustn't of had the tacho yet.

[JoKer]

hah neat!

[avenga]

my '76 staring down a '74 Escort

Back alley fight!! My money is on the Avenger!!!

[JoKer]

well it is only a 1300 Escort with leaf spring rear LOL

no competition really!

current day Values (real worls / trademe) may differ slightly in the other direction slightly though!

[avengertiger]

is the escort a friends off yours jared? in one off your pictures you had it photoed with a  green mk1 escort sport do you know the owner off the car? we have one in work for restoration and was looking for a photo off the steering wheel?

[JoKer]

Yep they are both 'his'

I'll see what I can do!

[avengertiger]

thanks jared appreciated i have an idea what it "should" have just want to confirm if his original.

[JoKer]

mk1 escort sport

this is the Bluey ones wheel, it has a cover on it, will get the Green one tomorrow


 


have also emailed to your gmail account

[avenga]

And I have since learned fro my Instagram post that the Chrysler Avenger is one of the only cars you can operate the Indicators without any key being on, design feature / flaw? Or could have been peculiar to the commentator's car they were working on at the time maybe?

The indicators on a Chrysler will work without the keys, but the Hillmans won't work without the keys.

I had a look at my wiring diagrams and it changed in Series 7. Before then it was running via the "green wire" circuit which is fuse 1 and is switched on by the ignition. This is the same circuit that all of the rest of your ignition on things run off.

After Series 7 they moved the indicators off to their own circuit, purple/green wire and gave them it's own fuse, fuse 5. This runs directly back to the "Brown wire" circuit which is your always on circuit.

My guess as to why they made this change was because they added hazard lights. And I am guessing that it was a law that your hazard lights must work with the keys off then they had to make this change. How the flasher is wired, it uses the same flasher unit for the hazards and the indicator, basically the hazard switch just turns on both indicators, so in order to have the hazards working with the key off then they need to make it so that the indicators also worked.

In modern cars they could get around this by either using micro-controllers or having separate feed circuits to the flasher. But back then I think it was just the easiest way to get the flasher unit working with the hazards and the key off and I don't think they cared if it had the side effect of making the indicators also work with the key off. 

[JoKer]

Ahh yep Hazards! One day I might try & make something work for mine, you never really can tell they are missing from mine until that one day you need them or the headlight Fuse blows coming over the Saddle Road! (pre relay days it happened in the dark & I had to follow next car close with one indicator on to get to Wdvl Station to fix)

True scary story!

[avenga]

Haha. Yeah, that happened to Ross (oldschool) and I on the way down to Napier for the Avenger meet years ago. My tail lights went out due to grounding issues, I got pulled over by the cops but I managed to fix it on the side of the road so they let me get away with it, but as I closed the boot they stopped working again, so Ross and I stood in front of the tail lights until the cop left. Then just down the road Ross?s headlight switch burnt out. So I had no tail lights and he had to headlights. So I went in front and we drove close, so combined we had a working Avenger 😊

I fixed my tail lights when I got to the hotel and Ross and I picked up a new light switch from horopito smash palace on the way home.

The joys of old electronics

[JoKer]

Oh Lucas!



Stock up now! (hah bit of a running joke but hard not knock it isnt it!

Here is presented for your perusal one Lucas Replacement Wiring Harness Smoke kit, P/N 530433, along with the very rare Churchill Tool 18G548BS adapter tube and metering valve. These kits were supplied surreptitiously to Lucas factory technicians as a trouble-shooting and repair aid for the rectification of chronic electrical problems on a plethora of British cars. The smoke is metered, through the fuse box, into the circuit which has released it's original smoke until the leak is located and repaired. The affected circuit is then rectified and the replacement smoke re-introduced. An advantage over the cheap repro smoke kits currently available is the exceptionally rare Churchill metering valve and fuse box adapter. It enables the intrepid and highly skilled British Car Technician to meter the precise amount of genuine Lucas smoke required by the circuit.

http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm

This one looks like NOS



https://cybermotorcycle.com/gallery/electrics/Lucas-wiring-smoke.htm

[avenga]

and here's why we did a wheel change...

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4qZskOnX6U/

Wife bought a Datsun 1200 / 120Y!


 


First Show & shine of the season yesterday

That's so awesome! I'm looking at getting my girlfriend a classic. She can't drive a manual so my 2 Avengers don't really work for her. I got the Charger out of the garage over the weekend so she can drive that, but she is a bit apprehensive driving such a big car. She wants something small and cute, something not too small engined and not too powerful. She has been leaning towards an Austin 1100 or Morris Minor, something around that.

The ultimate goal is what you are doing, going to car shows together.

[JoKer]

Yeah was pretty cool!

Datto 1200 is painfully SLOW compared to the 1600 TC (yeah even Auto)

all votes go to keep it stock but I want a hot 1200 or 1500 + Manual (currently a 3 speed HP vampire

[avenga]

Datto 1200 is painfully SLOW compared to the 1600 TC (yeah even Auto)

You should try going between my 1500 Avenger Panther and my V8 Avenger wagon. That's painful, feels like the Panther is barely accelerating at full throttle